13 thoughts on “Spoilers: Venom #14, More Changes for Brock”
Are you sure it’s hobgoblin, and not jack’o’lantern?
It’s Jack o Lantern.
I was rushing to get the last ones posted.
Is there any spec here or do you think the Asgard armor is a throw away? Do you think a 2nd print will have the interior shot on the cover and that’d be the one to grab if so?
Not really spec. Just interesting.
Sorry if this is a stupid question…but that whole savage venom armour from last issue (and featured on the cover of #13 2nd print) is now gone? I’m not following savage avengers to know if this story is diverging or what the hell is going on…
So the venom in savage avengers seems to be just the symbiote. The armory from last issue morphed this issue.
I’m so far behind in my venoms…
That’s why I dropped Venom getting too complicated. I got a few issues behind and just stopped at #12.
“That’s why I dropped Venom getting too complicated. I got a few issues behind and just stopped at #12.”
What’s complicated?
1- You have Eddie Brock in issues 13, 14 and 15 with various forms of a non alien suit/armor and counting with an origin that’s easy to follow. Apparently he’s suitless again in 16 so the story arc ends at 3 issues and starts something in a new direction, probably more focused on the kid but ending up with Eddie and Goonom back together by the annual in July.
2- Ball of Goo original Venom Symbiote without a host (Goonom) captured by Maleketh in Strikeforce Avengers and bonded to a dagger in War of the Realms then used to stab Odin’s wife. What happens next is why we read but according to the cover of Savage Avengers #3 Conan gets what appears to be a Venomized Savage Sword of Conan. That could end up being a morph of what just happened to Goonom at the hands of Maleketh or a previously existing symbiote sword or maybe a 3rd option not yet explored.
The important thing here is Eddie doesn’t have a suit right now but is credited to eventually show up in Savage Avengers sometime. That implies the two must eventually get back together for that to happen. It wasn’t in Savage Avengers #1 and may not occur prior to #4. Venom Annual #1 says they’re back together in July.
Some fun possible alternatives and activities in the meantime include
Eddie finding a magical remnant inside him that lets him keep his Savage Venom Non Alien suit.
That ball of goo in the FCBD Savage Avengers gives Eddie a new suit.
Conan gets to spend some quality time as a host for Goonom.
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Then there’s Carnage. We’ll learn more in July’s Web of Venom: Funeral Pyre. Last seen in the FCBD Spider-man issue pretending to be Eddie Brock and Venom, also I suspect responsible for the morphing scene on the last pages of Venom #12.
SAVAGE AVENGERS #4
MARVEL COMICS
(W) Gerry Duggan (A) Mike Deodato (CA) David Finch
The one evil wizard to rule them all, Kulan Gath has succeeded in summoning an ancient evil…and he’s already hard at work on his next terrible plan. Conan swings his savage symbiotic sword against the forces of darkness… and Frank Castle has the worst day of his life. (If you don’t count that day in the park.) The Savage Avengers are fighting to save YOU!
Here’s where it starts to get a little confusing.
Coming in August
ABSOLUTE CARNAGE #1 (OF 4) AC
MARVEL COMICS
(W) Donny Cates (A/CA) Ryan Stegman
After turning Venom’s world upside down a year ago, DONNY CATES and RYAN STEGMAN are about to put the Sinister Symbiote through hell again, only this time CARNAGE has come calling, and everyone who’s ever worn a symbiote is dead in his sights! He’s skirted the periphery of the Marvel Universe for months, but Cletus Kasady at last stands poised to make his grand return to New York in a blistering 60-PAGE story… and he wants to paint the town red!
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VENOM #17 AC
MARVEL COMICS
(W) Donny Cates (A) Iban Coello (CA) Kyle Hotz
With CARNAGE on the loose, VENOM must protect his son Dylan – at all costs! But as longtime Venomaniacs know, VENOM AND CARNAGE aren’t the only symbiotes loose in New York!
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ABSOLUTE CARNAGE VS DEADPOOL #1 (OF 3) AC
MARVEL COMICS
(W) Matthew Rosenberg (A) Marcelo Ferreira (CA) Tyler Kirkham
At long last, Deadpool is ready to get his head straight and checks himself into Ravencroft Institute. Unfortunately, there’s another new arrival: CARNAGE! But I don’t think he’s here for a group therapy session… Madness and mayhem abound in the can’t-miss showdown of the year!
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ABSOLUTE CARNAGE LETHAL PROTECTORS #1 (OF 3) AC
MARVEL COMICS
(W) Frank Tieri (A) Alberto Jimenez Alburquerque (CA) Bengal
THE CULT OF CARNAGE COMES TO NEW YORK CITY! When he was last seen, John Jameson was being recovered from the scene of a massacre in Doverton, Colorado, by Misty Knight. Since then, they’ve both been MIA. So how, then, are they the only two people poised to prevent chaos as a mysterious foe of Spider-Man’s is RESURRECTED in the basements of RAVENCROFT INSTITUTE FOR THE CRIMINALLY INSANE?!
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ABSOLUTE CARNAGE MILES MORALES #1 (OF 3) AC
MARVEL COMICS
(W) Saladin Ahmed (A) Federico Vincentini (CA) Clayton Crain
TARGET: SCORPION! It’s business as usual for Miles Morales as he finds himself squaring off with Mac Gargan, A.K.A. THE SCORPION! But as a cult of Carnage’s bloodthirsty acolytes swarms New York, Miles will learn the hard way that Scorpion has a history with Venom and the other symbiotes of the Marvel Universe! If he can survive this issue, that is.
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ABSOLUTE CARNAGE SCREAM #1 (OF 3) AC
MARVEL COMICS
(W) Cullen Bunn (A/CA) Gerardo Sandoval
THE RETURN OF A CLASSIC SYMBIOTE… AND IT’LL BE A SCREAM! Years ago, Patricia Robertson was unwillingly bonded to the clone of Venom that eventually became Mania, and she’s been living in fear of symbiotes ever since. But she’s also been living with a secret, and with the coming of Carnage, Patricia must take a stand – and will have no choice but to confront her demons head-on!
———————-
ABSOLUTE CARNAGE SEPARATION ANXIETY #1 AC
MARVEL COMICS
(W) Clay Chapman (A) Brian Level (CA) Philip Tan
HELLISH HORROR IN THE MIGHTY MARVEL MANNER! Since the conclusion of DEADPOOL VS. CARNAGE, four of the five LIFE FOUNDATION SYMBIOTES – Riot, Phage, Agony and Lasher – have been bonded to a stray dog, wandering the Midwest. But as Carnage descends on New York, its siblings will find it impossible to resist the siren song of KNULL…
Biggest Venom EVER!!!!? It was established in Giantman last week that the minimum height for a Frost Giant is 65 feet. Savage Venom grows to match the height of the Frost Giants in this issue so as far as I know, this issue features the biggest Venom ever and he’s still SAVAGE immediately biting into a Frost Giant’s neck/shoulders ripping meat away, beheading others and body spiking a 3rd!!!
He sustains heavy damage from fire and the suit morphs again into something more Asgardian armorlike.
Easily my most enjoyable read of the week. The action runs from cover to cover and sets up the next issue to finish up the 3 part story in ways hard to guess.
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Are you sure it’s hobgoblin, and not jack’o’lantern?
It’s Jack o Lantern.
I was rushing to get the last ones posted.
Is there any spec here or do you think the Asgard armor is a throw away? Do you think a 2nd print will have the interior shot on the cover and that’d be the one to grab if so?
Not really spec. Just interesting.
Sorry if this is a stupid question…but that whole savage venom armour from last issue (and featured on the cover of #13 2nd print) is now gone? I’m not following savage avengers to know if this story is diverging or what the hell is going on…
So the venom in savage avengers seems to be just the symbiote. The armory from last issue morphed this issue.
I’m so far behind in my venoms…
That’s why I dropped Venom getting too complicated. I got a few issues behind and just stopped at #12.
“That’s why I dropped Venom getting too complicated. I got a few issues behind and just stopped at #12.”
What’s complicated?
1- You have Eddie Brock in issues 13, 14 and 15 with various forms of a non alien suit/armor and counting with an origin that’s easy to follow. Apparently he’s suitless again in 16 so the story arc ends at 3 issues and starts something in a new direction, probably more focused on the kid but ending up with Eddie and Goonom back together by the annual in July.
2- Ball of Goo original Venom Symbiote without a host (Goonom) captured by Maleketh in Strikeforce Avengers and bonded to a dagger in War of the Realms then used to stab Odin’s wife. What happens next is why we read but according to the cover of Savage Avengers #3 Conan gets what appears to be a Venomized Savage Sword of Conan. That could end up being a morph of what just happened to Goonom at the hands of Maleketh or a previously existing symbiote sword or maybe a 3rd option not yet explored.
The important thing here is Eddie doesn’t have a suit right now but is credited to eventually show up in Savage Avengers sometime. That implies the two must eventually get back together for that to happen. It wasn’t in Savage Avengers #1 and may not occur prior to #4. Venom Annual #1 says they’re back together in July.
Some fun possible alternatives and activities in the meantime include
Eddie finding a magical remnant inside him that lets him keep his Savage Venom Non Alien suit.
That ball of goo in the FCBD Savage Avengers gives Eddie a new suit.
Conan gets to spend some quality time as a host for Goonom.
—————————-
Then there’s Carnage. We’ll learn more in July’s Web of Venom: Funeral Pyre. Last seen in the FCBD Spider-man issue pretending to be Eddie Brock and Venom, also I suspect responsible for the morphing scene on the last pages of Venom #12.
SAVAGE AVENGERS #4
MARVEL COMICS
(W) Gerry Duggan (A) Mike Deodato (CA) David Finch
The one evil wizard to rule them all, Kulan Gath has succeeded in summoning an ancient evil…and he’s already hard at work on his next terrible plan. Conan swings his savage symbiotic sword against the forces of darkness… and Frank Castle has the worst day of his life. (If you don’t count that day in the park.) The Savage Avengers are fighting to save YOU!
Here’s where it starts to get a little confusing.
Coming in August
ABSOLUTE CARNAGE #1 (OF 4) AC
MARVEL COMICS
(W) Donny Cates (A/CA) Ryan Stegman
After turning Venom’s world upside down a year ago, DONNY CATES and RYAN STEGMAN are about to put the Sinister Symbiote through hell again, only this time CARNAGE has come calling, and everyone who’s ever worn a symbiote is dead in his sights! He’s skirted the periphery of the Marvel Universe for months, but Cletus Kasady at last stands poised to make his grand return to New York in a blistering 60-PAGE story… and he wants to paint the town red!
———————
VENOM #17 AC
MARVEL COMICS
(W) Donny Cates (A) Iban Coello (CA) Kyle Hotz
With CARNAGE on the loose, VENOM must protect his son Dylan – at all costs! But as longtime Venomaniacs know, VENOM AND CARNAGE aren’t the only symbiotes loose in New York!
——————————
ABSOLUTE CARNAGE VS DEADPOOL #1 (OF 3) AC
MARVEL COMICS
(W) Matthew Rosenberg (A) Marcelo Ferreira (CA) Tyler Kirkham
At long last, Deadpool is ready to get his head straight and checks himself into Ravencroft Institute. Unfortunately, there’s another new arrival: CARNAGE! But I don’t think he’s here for a group therapy session… Madness and mayhem abound in the can’t-miss showdown of the year!
——————————
ABSOLUTE CARNAGE LETHAL PROTECTORS #1 (OF 3) AC
MARVEL COMICS
(W) Frank Tieri (A) Alberto Jimenez Alburquerque (CA) Bengal
THE CULT OF CARNAGE COMES TO NEW YORK CITY! When he was last seen, John Jameson was being recovered from the scene of a massacre in Doverton, Colorado, by Misty Knight. Since then, they’ve both been MIA. So how, then, are they the only two people poised to prevent chaos as a mysterious foe of Spider-Man’s is RESURRECTED in the basements of RAVENCROFT INSTITUTE FOR THE CRIMINALLY INSANE?!
———————-
ABSOLUTE CARNAGE MILES MORALES #1 (OF 3) AC
MARVEL COMICS
(W) Saladin Ahmed (A) Federico Vincentini (CA) Clayton Crain
TARGET: SCORPION! It’s business as usual for Miles Morales as he finds himself squaring off with Mac Gargan, A.K.A. THE SCORPION! But as a cult of Carnage’s bloodthirsty acolytes swarms New York, Miles will learn the hard way that Scorpion has a history with Venom and the other symbiotes of the Marvel Universe! If he can survive this issue, that is.
—————————–
ABSOLUTE CARNAGE SCREAM #1 (OF 3) AC
MARVEL COMICS
(W) Cullen Bunn (A/CA) Gerardo Sandoval
THE RETURN OF A CLASSIC SYMBIOTE… AND IT’LL BE A SCREAM! Years ago, Patricia Robertson was unwillingly bonded to the clone of Venom that eventually became Mania, and she’s been living in fear of symbiotes ever since. But she’s also been living with a secret, and with the coming of Carnage, Patricia must take a stand – and will have no choice but to confront her demons head-on!
———————-
ABSOLUTE CARNAGE SEPARATION ANXIETY #1 AC
MARVEL COMICS
(W) Clay Chapman (A) Brian Level (CA) Philip Tan
HELLISH HORROR IN THE MIGHTY MARVEL MANNER! Since the conclusion of DEADPOOL VS. CARNAGE, four of the five LIFE FOUNDATION SYMBIOTES – Riot, Phage, Agony and Lasher – have been bonded to a stray dog, wandering the Midwest. But as Carnage descends on New York, its siblings will find it impossible to resist the siren song of KNULL…
Biggest Venom EVER!!!!? It was established in Giantman last week that the minimum height for a Frost Giant is 65 feet. Savage Venom grows to match the height of the Frost Giants in this issue so as far as I know, this issue features the biggest Venom ever and he’s still SAVAGE immediately biting into a Frost Giant’s neck/shoulders ripping meat away, beheading others and body spiking a 3rd!!!
He sustains heavy damage from fire and the suit morphs again into something more Asgardian armorlike.
Easily my most enjoyable read of the week. The action runs from cover to cover and sets up the next issue to finish up the 3 part story in ways hard to guess.