Spoilers: Amazing Spider-Man #795, Will They Merge?

Amazing Spiderman #794 had an awesome last page. If you haven’t seen it yet then be warned there are spoilers coming up for that issue too.

The last panel featured Norman Osborn getting the Carnage Symbiote in hopes of restoring his Green Goblin powers. We have all seen the Red Goblin images for covers so we kind of know what is going to happen, it is just a matter of when. So that brings us to Amazing Spiderman #795, which is out tomorrow. The question is, will the merge take place. Check out the following spoilers for your answer. (click the spoiler image warning to see the redacted images.)


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Well there we have it. Looks like a first appearance to me.


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38 Responses to Spoilers: Amazing Spider-Man #795, Will They Merge?

  1. Steve says:

    1st app of red goblin is #797

  2. James Chiarello says:

    Any Walking Dead spoilers.??.. seems like it may have a few 1st appearances…

  3. stallguy says:

    You don’t think this might just be a cameo?

    • Anthony says:

      Could be, I’m still grabbing it anyway

    • agentpoyo says:

      This is why I hate the cameo vs full appearance debates.. I really think a cameo is when they’re not the focus of the pane with no speaking parts. A cameo is they’re off to the side, you see just a portion of them.. but to me, the focus is on the new character that has dialogue..

      Some comic authority needs to just come up with some damn guidelines when it comes to cameo and full appearance.

      Cameo is when you see the character in the book but they have no speaking parts or dialogue, you don’t know their name and they’re not the focus of any particular pane, like background or you just see a shadow, obscure view, etc.

      First appearance should be when they’re the focal point in a pane or several panes, they have speaking parts with dialogue (some characters don’t talk so perhaps just focal point and several panes would be a first appearance)… but we don’t have to know their name or identity yet.

      First Full Appearance should be when we know their name, they have dialogue and they’re on more than multiple panes but on multiple pages as well.

      There we go.. let’s set it in stone for crying out loud so we don’t have to debate anymore.. 🙂

      • David says:

        What’s the fun in that?

      • agentpoyo says:

        Because some make it too personal… And some argue because they gain something from it. They argue in favor of whatever book they got the most of to profit from. I enjoy a good debate myself but all to often people get butt hurt over something that really isn’t that important in life. 😉

      • Jesus says:

        It’s crazy cuz for superior spider man first appearance, it’s just him in a dark alley and a shadow of him. That should of been a Cameo.

      • agentpoyo says:

        I just want consistency…. That’s all I really ask for.

      • Dave says:

        My favorite “first appearance” is Jason Todd in batman 357…he’s in one panel with his family,mhe’s not even referred to by name (they’re introduced as “the Todds”) and yet this book is 100s of dollars in nm/m condition because someone decided it was his “first appearance.” Not full, or cameo…first. Granted I think he made several cameos before what would be considered a full appearance…basically, it was less of a cameo than wolverine.

        Anyway, if people get butt hurt over funny books maybe they have other issues they should attend to…and consistency is never a bad thing.

  4. Brian Springman says:

    I’m torn here. He calls himself Carnage and Green Goblin is still shown on the cover of 797 with the synopsis saying Green Goblin is back.

    Red Goblin isn’t shown on any non-store variant covers until #799.

    Not sure this will be considered Red Goblin.

    • Brian Springman says:

      Even the official image of Red Goblin on both covers of 799 look different. Here he has the logo on his chest, calls himself Carnage and doesn’t have the goblin face/ears like on the covers of 799.

  5. Kevin Erickson says:

    Yep, a first appearance of Norman as Carnage lmao. He def merged with Carnage Symbiote, but that’s not Red Goblin. Did you even compare the pics? Still has Carnage Spider logo on his chest, no tail, no pointed ears, no pointed head, still has Carnage eyes, and even says “We are Carnage…”.

    • Anthony says:

      Yes I have read it and looked at the images obviously because I took the pictures but what I’m saying it is still the first time they merged

    • Anthony says:

      Is it red goblin? No that’s not what I said. My exact words were a merge. It’s up to the market to decide what they think. I just give heads ups

    • Vann says:

      I would think this is a situation before the symbiote splits again….one remains Carnage and the other turns into the Red Goblin. Still….this is the merging, but prior to the “birth” of the new villain.

      • JayClue says:

        Technically, Norman isnt the Goblin, nor have the ability to turn into Gobbie at the time he merges. It os not the Red Goblin, it is Red Normie. The symbiote is supposed to somehow return Norms Goblin prowess. This coupled w/ Vanns point about the symbiote splitting , seem to me, how this is going to go down.

  6. Alana says:

    Do you have an Avengers #679 to flip through too?

  7. Adam Lebednik says:

    Would Y’all compare this to Eddie merging with the Venom symbiote? Seems like the same as he says “We are Carnage.” It seems like the Red Goblin will be later, maybe he makes a compromise with Carnage to restore his power and also merge to be even more powerful or something to that effect?

    • Eric Miller says:

      I’d say its more like Mac Gargan merging with Venom… Eddie was a new character but Mac was a person change. So Norman merging with Carnage is a character change not like when Cletus did it as a new character.

  8. A. King says:

    Thanks for the info. I just got 2 from Mycomicshop.

  9. shawnclive says:

    This will be a cameo,,or merge or who knows.. I’m getting a few copies

  10. Jonathan hoffman says:

    Why does the question have to be whether or not this is the first appearance of The Red Goblin? Can’t we say, with certainty, that this is the first appearance of Norman Osborn as Carnage? ….or had that happened already? Lol

  11. Trey says:

    794 second print has the first meeting between the symbiote and Osborne on the cover. Could jump up. Think ASM 654 second print

  12. JayClue says:

    Im starting to think that Harry becomes the Red Goblin after the Carnage Symbiote frees Norman of the nanites that Parker put in him to counteract the Goblin. Then we would have the Green Goblin and a Red Goblin. And if Harry bonds with a Carnage Spawn, then we can still have Kletus Carnage, Green Goblin and Red Goblin at the same time. @Brian Springman, this would also explain Green Gobbie on the cover of #797.

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